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Post by Rick Redner on Jan 4, 2014 12:33:00 GMT -5
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Post by jehjr on Feb 26, 2014 20:55:53 GMT -5
Ok, so 2 men I know that have both experienced robotic prostatectomy. Of the 3 of us the other 2 are on testosterone gel and I am the only one with 20 LBS more than I started with. We are all the same age, 60. We are all in good shape and work out at the same gym. 1 had to get the mesh, no weight gain and 75% erection strength. 1 no weight gain, dry in 3 weeks, and erection by injection. Me, gained 20 lbs, dry in 3 months and erections before I left the hospital, 24 hrs. Why? 2 had the same doctor. our doctor trained under the 3rd ones doctor. Doesn't make sense. Cancer free and considering testosterone. There is so much to learn so I will post a site that has given me food for thought. www.artofmanliness.com/2013/01/14/testosterone-benefits/ |
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Post by Rick Redner on Feb 27, 2014 10:52:49 GMT -5
Jehjr, If this makes you feel any better count me in as one of them men you know who gained weight following surgery. Three years post-surgery and I'm still carrying 18 extra lbs. I'm working to loose weight, but it is a miserably slow process. I started testosterone 3 weeks ago. I haven't had a blood test yet and I started with the lowest dose. To date I feel no difference. Yesterday two studies published their results and scared the heck out of me. Here's a link: Life Threatening Heart RisksThis gives me pause whether or not to continue. I'll need to evaluate that. Here's the criteria I'll use to decide whether to continue: 1. Will my libido increase- Prior to surgery 9.5 out of 10 After surgery 0 2. Will using testosterone increase sexual functioning. 5mg of Cialis daily and erection hardness 6-7 out of 10. Sometimes unable to achieve an erection. No night time erections. If neither of these things change, there's no reason for me to continue with Testosterone and take the cardiac risks. Thanks again for sharing your experiences. Rick |
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Post by jehjr on Feb 27, 2014 13:50:19 GMT -5
I left the link to The Art of Manliness. There was some great information regarding testosterone. My count was 320 and my urologist will not consider testosterone replacement until it goes under 300. My only issue right now is weight. I was feeling depressed when I first approached the issue. That has since subsided and the pot belly is where I am concerned. Weight gain also contributes to heart issues. I will read the link later on and also wait for your thoughts or results. Jim
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Post by Rick Redner on Feb 27, 2014 22:11:17 GMT -5
Jim, My GP didn't give it to me when I was in the 200's. The test can vary a lot. It's important to get a morning test. I was started on Andro-gel even though I was in the 500's at my last test. I'm going in the morning tomorrow to gave my first test since I started. This much I can say. At the current dose I feel no change in energy level, libido or erectile performance. Here's the issue men are up against lab values do not take age into consideration. If you look at this graph on this link, you have the level of a man 85-100 years old! My suggestion,find a Dr who takes age into consideration rather than lab values. Check out this graph: Normal T Leves By AgeRick |
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Post by jehjr on Feb 28, 2014 17:22:15 GMT -5
Rick I read all the links and could not believe how much there was to learn. www.artofmanliness.com/2013/01/15/how-testosterone-is-made/This part was explaining the different types of testosterone. (3) I hope read more about your levels. A friend is taking what you are. He is on 4 pumps. Have no idea what that means but he has felt nothing. He feels it might take years to have a positive affect for him. There is another PC friend I will meet up with who is taking a pill. His numbers are 700 so I want to find out what that has done for him. |
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Post by Rick Redner on Feb 28, 2014 19:49:55 GMT -5
There are different ways to deliver testosterone. If skin absorption isn't working he could try injections. I have no idea how high the level is too shoot for. I took my blood test today. I'll learn more soon.
Rick
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Post by jehjr on Feb 28, 2014 21:55:35 GMT -5
My question is; what does your prostate have to do with testosterone?
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Post by Rick Redner on Mar 1, 2014 12:20:01 GMT -5
My question is; what does your prostate have to do with testosterone? The issue is what does prostate cancer and testosterone have to do with one another. Not so long ago it was believed that high levels of testosterone is what lead to prostate cancer. If this were true you'd see that men with higher levels of testosterone are more likely to develop prostate cancer. Many Doctors still believe this. Amazingly recent research is finding the opposite is true, men with low T have greater incidence of pc and may do worse than men with high T levels. Here's a study that confirms this: Low T & Prostate Cancer Outcomes |
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Post by jehjr on Mar 1, 2014 14:56:07 GMT -5
My question is; what does your prostate have to do with testosterone?
If the testes create testosterone do they still do that without a prostate?
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